Level 2 pass rate

[tommo]

Hi

could somebody tell me what the pass rate is for level 2?
My friend was on an assesment this weekend and 10 out of 15 failed does this seem high

[74offsuit]

This sounds pretty typical, there are some other threads on this here from a while back.

On my course seven out of eighteen passed, me at the second attempt.

[MrJames10]

Hello All,

Can you tell me the place where you are doing your level 2 ?

Also I heard you got better chance passing if you do it with a football club rather than going through your local F.A .

Thanks

[shscanary]

Hi, I passed my level two course on Oct 3rd 2008, only one lad failed out of the twelve of us that was assessed.

Our tutor was Ray Walker from Crewe Alex and he was very helpful, we were assessed by a chap from Wigan, whose name escapes me at this second in time.

[MrJames10]

Hi,

I am currently doing my level 2 with essex F.A., I did my level 1 with Bolton Wanderas, and I know wish I did my level 2 with them as well.
The coach who is assessing us has a reputation, apparantly he failed 8 people last time. They then went and got re-assessed by another F.A an d passed first time.

Also during the practical week he also fell asleep during a coaches practical session as well.

Can I ask what exactly is expected in the final assessment for level 2?

Thanks

[seasider]

I passed my level 2 last weekend. 26 started the course; due to drop-out, we were down to 17 by the final day and 3 people failed their final assessment.

[Ahmad Ansari]

Guys,
You have all said your own experience but there is a general rule:

The way FA are doing their assessment of level 2 & level 3 is not fair and you certainly can't say someone who passes his assessment is better and has more knowledge than someone else who hasn't. Your hard work over a period of 8 months depends on ONE DAY and ONE PERSON and his TASTE obviously if he is in a good mood on that day the pass rate is high and viceversa.
To me FA should consider the work candidates do during the course and more importantly put TWO people on the assessment day so it won't depond on just one person's opinion and hopefully there will be more justice.

[seasider]

I don't think it is a 'general rule'. The assessors on my course certainly took our portfolios into account - I think this is what got me through because my last practical wasn't that good, but I spent a lot of time producing and delivering the 12 session plans, and had a really good well-organised folder of work. I don't think it was all based on "the one day". I was surprised about a couple of the people who failed (the other one completely messed up). I felt they were more knowledgable than me and did better practicals and I certainly wouldn't call myself better just because I passed. I agree it would be better to have 2 assessors making the final decision for each candidate, but that would be more costly and time-consuming - the course is already a big financial /time commitment.

[Ahmad Ansari]

you would probably had your assessor in a good mood on that day or he is naturally a fair person. I saw some one who completed his portfolio on the assessment day and passed but alot of guys who had worked hard during the course didnt.
Does the portfolio indicate how good you are in coaching? by drawing diagrams and colourful pages.? How about if someone copy it of someone else's?.
Another example, when I was doing my level 3 one of the lads had the best portfolio who was most praised by our course tutor and you know what happened HE FAILD because to that assessor he wasn't good enough but if his tutor was going to assess him he would certainly have passed. So yes it does depend on one day and ONE PERSON.

[seasider]

Originally Posted by Ahmad Ansari

you would probably had your assessor in a good mood on that day or he is naturally a fair person. I saw some one who completed his portfolio on the assessment day and passed but alot of guys who had worked hard during the course didnt.
Does the portfolio indicate how good you are in coaching? by drawing diagrams and colourful pages.? How about if someone copy it of someone else's?.
Another example, when I was doing my level 3 one of the lads had the best portfolio who was most praised by our course tutor and you know what happened HE FAILD because to that assessor he wasn't good enough but if his tutor was going to assess him he would certainly have passed. So yes it does depend on one day and ONE PERSON.

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The same as your driving test, music exam etc. all these processes are subjective. No, a good portfolio doesn't mean you are a good coach - neither does delivering one really good practical on the day. Several people on my course admitted they hadn't had the time to deliver all 12 sessions and had just written them up the night before. Do you think this doesn't happen on Uni courses, or A level exams? My oh is a teacher and has had coursework essays given in that were downloaded from the internet - written by someone else - he spotted them by googling a few sentences! The level 2 assessor knows this goes on, and has to make a judgement based on the folder and the practical - they'll get it wrong in some cases.
At the end of the day- it's about passing an exam. I think you should be assessed delivering training to your own team over a 12 month period- but this would be far too time-consuming and expensive to assess though. I've seen coaches who have passed their level 2 who just turn up, chuck a ball in and leave the kids to it while they have a chat to one of the dads about the game last night. I've also seen new coaches without any badge deliver excellent sessions. Just like someone who has passed their driving test, then drives for the next 50 years with one hand hanging out of the window! It's about doing what you have to do to pass the course, not about how good a coach you are.