Mini Soccer question...Goal kicks

[Wooders72]

Hi, i have a question in the rules of Mini Soccer here in the UK.

I had a scenario in my sons Under 9's match at the weekend when my son got injured and had to be stretchered off with ligament damage, in this game we had no substitutes die to injury and holidays so we continued with our 6 men against their 7 men when we were awarded a goal kick by the referee, our right sided defender went to take the goal kick from the right hand side when i told him loud and clearly not to take the goal kick but to give the ball to our left sided defender to take the kick ( i did this because my son plays on the right hand side and due to his injury we were a little threadbare on the right hand side). Now our defender side footed it to our left sided defender to take the goal kick and proceded to walk out fo the goal area and to get into position, at this point the manager of the opposing team started screaming that we couldn't do that and it should be a free kick to them........ i couldn't believe it The referee the pointed towards the area and i thought he was just saying to take the goal kick from the left hand side as the ball hadn't left the area (nowhere near leaving the area in fact as he had rolled it across to him to take) but in fact he awarded the opposition a free kick on the edge of the are...........once again i was stunned and p'eed off to say the least, i then had words with the opposition manager and told him exactly what i thought as 1) i was only telling my player to do this due to the misfortune of a bad injury to our player and 2) i thought this was ungentlemanly conduct by him and by the referee to an extent.

Fortunately the opposition did not score from this debacle and the game ended goalless but i was fuming for ages after the event.

Now what exactly should have been the procedure for this ? i thought that if the ball hadn't left the area anyhow the goal kick has to be retaken and secondly not for one moment were we trying to gain an advantage but just take the goal kick from the other side of the area.

I'm still confused and the youung boys even more so.

Cheers in advance for your replies.

[ian.curry]

I think you are saying that one defender merely passed it to another defender to take it - like throwing the ball to a team mate to take a throw in.
By the sounds of it you are absolutely right - even if your other defender picks it up with his hands, the ball is dead until it leaves the box.
Some managers and referees are clueless about specifics like the above and when it comes to the situation occuring, it leaves many, as you say, confused.

Maybe you should have had asked at the end of the game what they were giving the free kick for? Maybe something happened that you didn't see?

[Wooders72]

Thanks for your reply mate, no i definetly did not miss anything, all our player was doing was giving the ball to our other player to take the goal kick but the opposition manager believed we had taken the kick (or he was trying to pull a fast one).......... why he'd think that i have no idea as all of our players that were near the box were marked so it wasn't like we were trying to take a short goal kick.

In hindsight maybe it would have been better for our player to have picked the ball up and giving it to our other player but with this referee he would probably have bloody given them a penalty for handball

As i said i thought the ball had to leave the area anyhow for play to be back in action.

I think the opposition manager was bang out of order as if you had been there you would have clearly seen what our player was doing in merely tapping the ball to his team mate so he could take the goal kick from the left hand side of the area as we were short of player down the right due to injuries.

We have the same team again on Sunday so could be 'interesting'.

[Cookie]

They shouldn't be involved with youth football if they are getting that serious at U9 age group!!!

Games should really be non-competitive at that age (e.g. no recorded results or league tables) and the children should be learning the game and developing their skills and awareness - not worrying about whether three points will be won or lost.

[huffsw]

The refferee should have seen for himself that this was not an attempt at a goal kick and merely a pass.. Unfortunately there are referees that have a low self esteem and rely on coaches and even parents to make the calls. And unless properly trained in the psycology of refereeing in todays competetive society then you will sometimes be stuck with an uninformed and weak minded referree. Sorry that you were stuck with one but thats just the way that it is. I sometimes test my referrees before the game, especially the young ones... Ask them a question that I already know the answer too. The offsides law for example. This seems to be sufficient as to providing me with more attentive referreing from these particular games. Hope that this helps you in the future.

Stephen

[mcolwell1959]

You can take a goal kick from whichever side of the penalty area you wish. A goal kick musy leave the penalty area to be considere to be in play and if it does not must be retaken. I guess that you had a numpty referee who does not know the rules.

[mcolwell1959]

The goal kick must leave the penalty area and if it does not the kick must be retaken. You can take a goal kick from wherever you wisj in the penalty area at 7 a side.

I had a scenario in my sons Under 9's match at the weekend when my son got injured and had to be stretchered off with ligament damage, in this game we had no substitutes die to injury and holidays so we continued with our 6 men against their 7 men when we were awarded a goal kick by the referee, our right sided defender went to take the goal kick from the right hand side when i told him loud and clearly not to take the goal kick but to give the ball to our left sided defender to take the kick ( i did this because my son plays on the right hand side and due to his injury we were a little threadbare on the right hand side). Now our defender side footed it to our left sided defender to take the goal kick and proceded to walk out fo the goal area and to get into position, at this point the manager of the opposing team started screaming that we couldn't do that and it should be a free kick to them........ i couldn't believe it The referee the pointed towards the area and i thought he was just saying to take the goal kick from the left hand side as the ball hadn't left the area (nowhere near leaving the area in fact as he had rolled it across to him to take) but in fact he awarded the opposition a free kick on the edge of the are...........once again i was stunned and p'eed off to say the least, i then had words with the opposition manager and told him exactly what i thought as 1) i was only telling my player to do this due to the misfortune of a bad injury to our player and 2) i thought this was ungentlemanly conduct by him and by the referee to an extent.

Fortunately the opposition did not score from this debacle and the game ended goalless but i was fuming for ages after the event.

Now what exactly should have been the procedure for this ? i thought that if the ball hadn't left the area anyhow the goal kick has to be retaken and secondly not for one moment were we trying to gain an advantage but just take the goal kick from the other side of the area.

I'm still confused and the youung boys even more so.

Cheers in advance for your replies.[/quote]